diff --git a/desktop-shell/shell.c b/desktop-shell/shell.c
index c5afd8e1..9ebc9550 100644
--- a/desktop-shell/shell.c
+++ b/desktop-shell/shell.c
@@ -2451,6 +2451,17 @@ desktop_surface_set_xwayland_position(struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
 	shsurf->xwayland.is_set = true;
 }
 
+static void
+desktop_surface_get_position(struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
+			     int32_t *x, int32_t *y,
+			     void *shell_)
+{
+	struct shell_surface *shsurf = weston_desktop_surface_get_user_data(surface);
+
+	*x = shsurf->view->geometry.x;
+	*y = shsurf->view->geometry.y;
+}
+
 static const struct weston_desktop_api shell_desktop_api = {
 	.struct_size = sizeof(struct weston_desktop_api),
 	.surface_added = desktop_surface_added,
@@ -2465,6 +2476,7 @@ static const struct weston_desktop_api shell_desktop_api = {
 	.ping_timeout = desktop_surface_ping_timeout,
 	.pong = desktop_surface_pong,
 	.set_xwayland_position = desktop_surface_set_xwayland_position,
+	.get_position = desktop_surface_get_position,
 };
 
 /* ************************ *
diff --git a/include/libweston-desktop/libweston-desktop.h b/include/libweston-desktop/libweston-desktop.h
index 3e7ac738..313179ef 100644
--- a/include/libweston-desktop/libweston-desktop.h
+++ b/include/libweston-desktop/libweston-desktop.h
@@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ struct weston_desktop_api {
 	 */
 	void (*set_xwayland_position)(struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
 				      int32_t x, int32_t y, void *user_data);
+	void (*get_position)(struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
+			     int32_t *x, int32_t *y,
+			     void *user_data);
 };
 
 void
diff --git a/kiosk-shell/kiosk-shell.c b/kiosk-shell/kiosk-shell.c
index 62949ed4..e13742fb 100644
--- a/kiosk-shell/kiosk-shell.c
+++ b/kiosk-shell/kiosk-shell.c
@@ -951,6 +951,17 @@ desktop_surface_set_xwayland_position(struct weston_desktop_surface *desktop_sur
 	shsurf->xwayland.is_set = true;
 }
 
+static void
+desktop_surface_get_position(struct weston_desktop_surface *desktop_surface,
+			     int32_t *x, int32_t *y, void *shell)
+{
+	struct kiosk_shell_surface *shsurf =
+		weston_desktop_surface_get_user_data(desktop_surface);
+
+	*x = shsurf->view->geometry.x;
+	*y = shsurf->view->geometry.y;
+}
+
 static const struct weston_desktop_api kiosk_shell_desktop_api = {
 	.struct_size = sizeof(struct weston_desktop_api),
 	.surface_added = desktop_surface_added,
@@ -965,6 +976,7 @@ static const struct weston_desktop_api kiosk_shell_desktop_api = {
 	.ping_timeout = desktop_surface_ping_timeout,
 	.pong = desktop_surface_pong,
 	.set_xwayland_position = desktop_surface_set_xwayland_position,
+	.get_position = desktop_surface_get_position,
 };
 
 /*
diff --git a/libweston/desktop/internal.h b/libweston/desktop/internal.h
index 8fdd4a28..f45b6601 100644
--- a/libweston/desktop/internal.h
+++ b/libweston/desktop/internal.h
@@ -86,6 +86,11 @@ weston_desktop_api_set_xwayland_position(struct weston_desktop *desktop,
 					 struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
 					 int32_t x, int32_t y);
 
+void
+weston_desktop_api_get_position(struct weston_desktop *desktop,
+				struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
+				int32_t *x, int32_t *y);
+
 struct weston_desktop_seat *
 weston_desktop_seat_from_seat(struct weston_seat *wseat);
 
diff --git a/libweston/desktop/libweston-desktop.c b/libweston/desktop/libweston-desktop.c
index ea6fbebe..f7ecc709 100644
--- a/libweston/desktop/libweston-desktop.c
+++ b/libweston/desktop/libweston-desktop.c
@@ -237,3 +237,14 @@ weston_desktop_api_set_xwayland_position(struct weston_desktop *desktop,
 		desktop->api.set_xwayland_position(surface, x, y,
 						   desktop->user_data);
 }
+
+void
+weston_desktop_api_get_position(struct weston_desktop *desktop,
+				struct weston_desktop_surface *surface,
+				int32_t *x, int32_t *y)
+{
+	if (!desktop->api.get_position)
+		return;
+
+	desktop->api.get_position(surface, x, y, desktop->user_data);
+}